Do People Really Poop in the Hallways at Stuvyestant?

Are you rufus?

I don't know, are you?

I'm in pcv. The rent is higher. Maybe this leads to better behavior but I haven't experienced anything of the sort. Just broken washing machines. Great place to live. Interesting landlord situation. But thanks for your concern.

alpine..give it a break..I'd live there in a heartbeat if the rents came down and so would you...the rooms are large the location is great.

Penier, it depends: do mean 'rufus' as a noun or an adjective?

do you mean, that is.

His name was Rufus. When we get on SE we are all Rufus.

Didn't Tyler Durden explain this all to you?

"I'd live there in a heartbeat if the rents came down and so would you"

Speak for yourself. There is no way I would live in Stuy Town. I DESPISE the location. I can think of a lot better places to live close to than the FDR Drive and Alaphebet City. In my budget, my desired building would actually be 20 Pine. The rents are a good bargain, the units are upscale, and you can't beat the ammenities, with the indoor pool being my favorite. In fact, an indoor pool is the only ammenity I would be willing to pay extra for because I would never use any other ammenity, especially the gym, although my bathroom scale says that I do need to use the guy more often.

I remember the first time I saw Stuy Town when my father as a kid took me to the annual flee market they used to have. I think I asked him if the buidling was a housing project. And speaking of designs, who the hell chose the GREEN windows? Seriosuly, GREEN? Was the architect drunk?

It's not where I'd live now but, for the young and those close to the begining of their NY life it's a great place to get a start. It's close to the east village and flatiorn where alot of single stuff happens. As a old dude such as myself it would not suit my needs but poo in the halls? seem like exageration or isolated incident. A project this is not.

Even for young people there are better palces to live, especially since Stuy Town only has access to a single train line. You literally can't go anywhere without transferring trains since the L is essentially a Brooklyn train line.

falco, it's actually been a haven for the elderly and families. good school, great playgrounds, strong community. TS is trying to turn it into a dorm, but it's still overpriced and hopefully the student population will moderate. no problem with some youngsters, but having this dynamic overrun with them probably isn't the best either. and i'm a crone who's losing her memory.

alpie, did i see you at the A&F at 56th and 5th today? you should go if you want to have an idea of those renting at 20 Pine. Dante could have written something wonderful about that store.

alpie, it's a ten minute walk to union square.

what does a store at 56th have to do with 20 Pine? And no, I was not there today. And besides, considering the huge amount of available rentla inventory for 20 Pine, I would have guessed the only ones renting there are roaches. LOL

wow.. no bubbles.... more stable families, better families generational connectedness.... mez hatez the bubbles... not Mr. Buble... he's the bomb.

w67, did you take your meds today? Lately I have no clue waht your posts are about.

and you said your desired building would be 20 Pine? you want to live among the roaches?

you have a singular inability to understand irony. the people at A&F are the ones who would want to rent at 20 Pine. live amongst them and weep. or go back to Jersey. either seems fitting.

I have no clue what A&F is.

honesty. Abercrombie & Fitch.

Mr. Bubble in your tubble gets you squeeky clean, Mr. Bubble in your tubble he's a clean machine...Mr. Bubble...

You had to be there to understand.

I grew up with the girl in the tub on the TV commercial. We sang that to her right up to the day we graduated high school.

oh, ok. I've never heard anyoen refer to them as A&F. Of course I know what Abercrombie & Fitch is.

He is the bomb

He is the bath bomb, before Lush started selling them.

pink and viscuous. grew up with Mr. Bubble and Mr. Clean. Always bemused me that the symbols of cleanliness should be male.

ar, we know someone who lives on one of the buildings close to 14th. He's been there forever, and says things went downhill considerably. I'm not sure if his is PCV or the other one. When we visited 2-3 years ago, it was pretty idyllic. Now not so much.

beholder, he's in stuy. sadly i have heard worse things about ST. the location is better, but the apartments are much smaller and there has been, as a result, more tenant turnover than PCV. our apartments are really very spacious, and while we have some apts that are dormlike, it's only a few, and for my building it's only one apartment that has obnoxious kids, and they don't poop in the halls but they might flick their tresses in your face with no apology or even awareness of your existence. the other kids are but kids, a bit loud but funny and nice and great once you get to know them.

I have been in both PCV and StuyTown...Stuytown is very large BUT PCV is enormous for Manhattan or anywhere..the lr looked twice the size of Stuytown...I think it's kept better because it's much smaller there aren't that many bldgs as in stuy town...i'd live there if a one bedroom was $1800.

aboutready, that A&F is the funniest place in all of New York. Did you carefully examine the 3-story mural? The model-to-be "assistant managers" folding clothes? The price tags on the most boring clothes the world has ever seen?

I stop in for a tour whenever I'm in the neighborhood.

I forgot the names of the muralist, but he goes by one false name when he paints A&F stores (they offered him $1 million to do the Tokyo one), and another false name for his art-world confections. He has a whole false biography for the latter, in which he lived from 1883 to 1936, or some such dates. I might have some of the story wrong, but it's conceptually correct.

ST/PCV is a machine for living.

But no, it's does not offer convenient access to New Jersey.

i kind of noticed it (actually i did for a brief but intense second but i turned away, you've got a stronger stomach than i do), but i was there at 6:00 and it was hot and hideous. i usually subject myself to A&F at the Albany mall, which is far more pleasant, if that can be believed. hey, what's goin' on? or some such, i don't pay attention to the model wanna-bes.

my husband says it to them as we approach. blank stares. there roles have been usurped (although i'm fairly certain they couldn't verbalize said concept) and some old fart is doing their jobs for them.

sadly, it is the only jean that fits our daughter, almost 5'10" and needing a 00 size. i feed her fat all day long, and into the night (with those fruits and veggies, of course) and still.

Have lived in stuy town for 4 years, I can vouch for the fact that it has gone WAY downhill. I have really enjoyed the apartment and the location, but TS bites the big one. I have never seen such an utter lack of care/respect about the treatment of residents. I think the business they do is disgraceful and disgusting and I wouldn't wish that kind of treatment upon worst enemy. Thank goodness we only have 25 days till we get out!

bitemestuy, i can only express my sympathies. this complex has become so bizarre. some buildings are ok and managed well (they have different people managing different "quadrants" or something like that.) i've heard stories that could turn your hair white about some of these buildings, and others are fine. i would suggest that any would be renter lurk about the complex for a bit and form their own conclusions. that does seem to be a bit much, but it may or may not be worth it to you. (and i am no hack for management).

Maybe you Stuy Town residents should move to NJ. In NJ, landlords* respect their tenants and give them all sorts of goodies, liek holiday parties.

*excluding my former crazy Columbia University Bin Laden sympathizer landlord who shall go unnamed

until you can't afford to pay your taxes and your tenants are evicted without notice due to your foreclosure proceeding.

I don't worry about that happening AR. I use Turbo Tax to handle all of my tax matters.

alpie, once again, dense as hell (although i think you thought that was funny). i'm talking about your tenants. i don't care about your sorry ass.

Why are you chaing the topic of this thread? I can afford my darn taxes. This thread is supposed to be about SHIT IN THE HALLWAY at Stuvyestant, ok? So please stay on topic and refrain from talking about anything that does not invovle SHIT IN THE HALLWAY at Stuvyestant!

oh, and by the way, I'm secretly hoping that Curbed picks up this thread, like they do with a lot of other SE threads. LOL. Come on Curbed, make me famous!

alpie, once again you're a complete and utter fool. curbed has this on this morning.

i hope a big fat grey pigeon poops on your head, repeatedly, as karma for your nastiness to people. sadly there may not be such karma, and you may just eventually rot in the ground.

and I hope you get bitten by a rat in the subway.

and yes I knew that Curbed already discussed this, but I was hopign they would devote coverage specifically to THIS THREAD.

i don't take the subway often. and i generally don't hope for ill for others. although i have to wonder how long you've lived in manhattan? getting bitten by rats in the subway? not so likely. not being able to sell a stupid purchase in NJ? common.

alpine - were you on west 81st in a Toyota Jeep this evening?

no

I was waitng for the bus last winter and something black crawled up my leg. I have no idea what it was, but it looked like a mouse.

if you corner a rat and they have no means of escape, they will attack you.

you would know

well, at least i don't have to worry about selling a property with declining values in NJ. do you feel cornered by your purchase yet, alpie?

and i don't feel cornered, by the by, i feel b e a u tifully unemcumbered.

Birthday Sex!! Birthday Sex!!

FYI....stuytown just reduced rents to $2250 from a high of $3100...

still overpriced, especially for a college dorm.

For the record...........Mr. Bubble would never shop at A&F.

I live in PCV, and I heard from a nieghbor that a dog left a little something-something in the main floor hallway last week.

The building interior is definately not kept as clean as it should be. Our bike room/U-haul storage room, has garbage all over and water bugs (complained - no response from management).

Best thing about PCV/Stuy town is the outdoor areas, everything from bocce courts to paddle tennis courts. Large apts, good playgrounds (need a sandbox though), mediocre upkeep. The nieghborhood used to be very quiet, that changed with the new pet policy and influx of people in their early 20s. Lots of positives and negatives. Definately not luxury housing though as they advertised it last year.

Were dogs always allowed in ST/PCV? If not, when did it change?

about a year ago they started allowing pets, which imo, is great. but i can see how some wouldn't like it.

the grounds are great, but they've been looking fairly ill-kept these days. it has its pros and minuses, but it beats NJ.

Anything beats jersey.

except maybe vegas.

Vegaz, baby!!! Barf.

I have never been there & yet, I judge. It just looks awful. I hear remarks "why go to Europe, ya can go to Vegas". They rebuilt the continent there, right? And "NY,NY" bluch.

C'mon, everybody has to go to Paris (the casino) once in his life ... it's truly amazing!

My building's house rules prohibit dogs, but there seem to be more and more of them traipsing through the lobby. And so, when a selfish dog owner neglects his pet all day and well into the evening, the resulting piddle in the elevator sits there until the next morning when the maintenance staff comes back on duty. Doesn't anyone wonder why pets were banned in most apartment buildings in the first place? Nothing's changed to justify a change in those rules.

Okay, dog owners -- go postal on me.

I'm not a fan of the new pet policy, only because I got 2 young kids and now I have to think twice before letting them loose in the numerous grassy areas within the complex.

But its obvious why Tishman Speyer changed the policy - to attract more renters.

alanhart - no love for dogs??? Don't blame them. The rules should prevent stupid and inconsiderate people from owning dogs. If a pup's gotta go, a pup's gotta go. Good owners treat their pets better than that.

we don't have a problem in our building, and there are a fair number of dogs. i haven't noticed anything in our general vicinity, but i'd be careful too if i had young ones. but doesn't this environment just seem perfect for a pup, assuming it has a considerate owner?

> The rules should prevent stupid and inconsiderate people from owning dogs.

Unfortunately, that seems to be a lion's share of pet owners.

Just take a quick walk through central park on a saturday and count the idiots.

What doesn't make sense is to allow dogs, but not permit them on the grass. That is basically a rule made to be broken. They used to enforce it more, but I believe they cut down on security staff.

I like dogs, but I hate to hear them barking at one another, or jumping at kids riding bikes or scooters through the complex. My kid learned how to ride a two-wheeler recently, not I got to tell him watch out for delivery guys, security vehicles and dogs. If I had a dog I'd feel otherwise, but since I don't I'd rather have the old no pet policy in place.

a_g - that's like allowing college students to keep beer in their room, but they cannot drink it.

Waverly, as noted it's not dogs but NYC dog owners I don't like, and I suspect their dogs like them even less, for leaving them alone all day and evening, or with dog walkers, or kenneled.

The piddling is then not surprising, and frankly the not-cleaning-up-piddle is to be expected from people who are inconsiderate enough to wait that long to walk their dogs.

Yeah, the dogs probably feel bad about piddling and since they don't have hands they can't clean-up after themselves.

As a general rule, there is a certain % of people that are idiots in every place. In a city of 8 million people we just happen have to have a larger number of them living among us.

and soemtimes it seems that ALL of the idiots in NYC post here. Isn't that right nyc "Alpine lives in Jersey" 10022?

alanhart, my dog is lucky. she has a stay-at-home owner.

> and soemtimes it seems that ALL of the idiots in NYC post here. Isn't that right nyc "Alpine lives
> in Jersey" 10022?

We certainly have quite a few... we made a long list of the idiot posts.

It was headlined with "MANHATTAN IS NOT DOWN 20%, JUST SHOW ME ONE EXAMPLE!"

Oh wait, who was that again?

Alpine, perfitz, lic... awesome company you keep, alpine!

Who is Mr. Bubble? I'm picturing Tracy Jordan.

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alanhart, my dog is lucky. she has a stay-at-home owner.

Where is lucky now?