See the above comments for more clueless people speculating about things they know nothing about.
According to the Fine blog:
The View is moving along. They have been in soft open mode for a while now. I think Rockrose figured that the Summer would be quiet, so they wouldn't blow big bucks til it's offical launch in the fall. Even though it is a soft open I don't think they were happy with the on-site's performance. Rockrose moved their own people into the sales office 2 weeks ago, and sales have picked up from what I am hearing.
That's right Fed, we should listen to haters on a blog who know nothing about the area and who constantly make dim-witted, inaccurate, stupid statements all the time. That's who we should rely on for information.
Fair enough I suppose. The northern parts of LIC where you can enjoy some of neighboring Astoria are attractive. The areas with no services in desolation are different.
The View is open for sales, but they are not yet advertising. You can walk into their office and make an appointment though. You can even walk through the unfinished units to check out the views. Not all of the units are available. Only a few (~20) were released when I was there. I saw a nice 700 sf 1BR with outdoor space and an unobstructed view of the river and city, including the Empire State Building, for about $700k. It was a nice layout. Even the views from the hallway are amazing. It was a great apartment, but I was a little disappointed by the lack of amenities and parking in the building. Instead you have to use the gym and parking at EC2, which is amazing, but if I am going to be an owner I don't want to have to walk outside to use the gym or get to my car. I think they need to offer some exclusive "buyers' amenities" into the View to make it attractive to potential buyers - maybe an exclusive beach or rooftop pool - otherwise, the owners will feel like second-class citizens to the renters.
The industrial, desolate, areas, like the ones in the link from alan, are not the waterfront and Jackson Avenue areas where the new buildings are going up. The new residential areas are developing fast and more services and amenities are coming in as more people have been moving into the area.
alanhart, woah, those are pretty depressing pictures... the graffiti, trash, and empty factory building with busted windows.
LIC, I have to believe you there- I can't imagine anyone paying that kind of a price for anything in that kind of a neighborhood... there must be other pictures that are a better representation around.
The waterfront and Jackson Avenue area is still fairly desolate. At least compared to an established 'hood, which is where there pricing is. Fringe areas should be priced at a discount. I don't see it here.
You can look at the satellite photos for The View by searching for it on streeteasy.com (a fine site, highly recommended, by the way). Zoom in and you'll see a large brownfield (ahem, I mean brown_field). That's the site. The depressing industrial areas are far away -- at least a bazillion millimeters. All told, it's like the second coming of the Beaux Arts.
Here are some other pictures to balance it out a bit. These are in the waterfront area and there are a few shots of the view. You should go and see for yourself - visualizing something on a blog (good or bad) is never possible. TheFed, people who like the area are not going to change their minds becasue you keep ranting about it. And people that don't wont becasue others keep trying to defend it. And for those who haven't seen it, go and see for yourself and that's how you should be making your decision.
"TheFed, people who like the area are not going to change their minds becasue you keep ranting about it. And people that don't wont becasue others keep trying to defend it. And for those who haven't seen it, go and see for yourself and that's how you should be making your decision."
My comments are primarily to rib LICBroker and anyone who is perma-bull. More bias than Fox News!
The depressing photos on that link are not in the area on the waterfront.
They are of the area bordered by the Newtown Creek to the south, the LIE to the north, and Greenpoint Avenue to the east. They have no condominiums being built. They're a great area to walk in to see the vanishing urban wasteland. Another great place to walk to get that type of photos used to be the street on the east side of the old Domino's Sugar Factory. I'm sorry I didn't take more photos of that urban wasteland while it still existed.
-- a former 15-year resident of the only residential area anywhere near those photographs (Sunnyside, other side of LIE)
What's going on with this project? Nothing on line yet. No prices yet? Is it possible it's turning rental? I'm just curious as to why the delay.
When you know nobody is going to pay $1k PSF to live in desolation why rush to market?
See the above comments for more clueless people speculating about things they know nothing about.
According to the Fine blog:
The View is moving along. They have been in soft open mode for a while now. I think Rockrose figured that the Summer would be quiet, so they wouldn't blow big bucks til it's offical launch in the fall. Even though it is a soft open I don't think they were happy with the on-site's performance. Rockrose moved their own people into the sales office 2 weeks ago, and sales have picked up from what I am hearing.
Here are some pictures of the view to tide you over:
http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/queens/lic/hunterspt/newtowncreek/blissville/index.htm
http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/queens/lic/hunterspt/newtowncreek/borden/index.htm
Plus soon a Duane Reade will open up!
I guess the with such high demand, you can keep it a secret and not worry about attracting buyers.
Phew, at least we can rely on a BLOG from a BROKER to provide RELIABLE information. What a joke.
That's right Fed, we should listen to haters on a blog who know nothing about the area and who constantly make dim-witted, inaccurate, stupid statements all the time. That's who we should rely on for information.
Fair enough I suppose. The northern parts of LIC where you can enjoy some of neighboring Astoria are attractive. The areas with no services in desolation are different.
The View is open for sales, but they are not yet advertising. You can walk into their office and make an appointment though. You can even walk through the unfinished units to check out the views. Not all of the units are available. Only a few (~20) were released when I was there. I saw a nice 700 sf 1BR with outdoor space and an unobstructed view of the river and city, including the Empire State Building, for about $700k. It was a nice layout. Even the views from the hallway are amazing. It was a great apartment, but I was a little disappointed by the lack of amenities and parking in the building. Instead you have to use the gym and parking at EC2, which is amazing, but if I am going to be an owner I don't want to have to walk outside to use the gym or get to my car. I think they need to offer some exclusive "buyers' amenities" into the View to make it attractive to potential buyers - maybe an exclusive beach or rooftop pool - otherwise, the owners will feel like second-class citizens to the renters.
The industrial, desolate, areas, like the ones in the link from alan, are not the waterfront and Jackson Avenue areas where the new buildings are going up. The new residential areas are developing fast and more services and amenities are coming in as more people have been moving into the area.
minicooper24- Also don't forget the train is abou 8 blocks away.
alanhart, woah, those are pretty depressing pictures... the graffiti, trash, and empty factory building with busted windows.
LIC, I have to believe you there- I can't imagine anyone paying that kind of a price for anything in that kind of a neighborhood... there must be other pictures that are a better representation around.
MMAfia- Those pictures were a joke. The area around the waterfront is very nice.
The waterfront and Jackson Avenue area is still fairly desolate. At least compared to an established 'hood, which is where there pricing is. Fringe areas should be priced at a discount. I don't see it here.
You can look at the satellite photos for The View by searching for it on streeteasy.com (a fine site, highly recommended, by the way). Zoom in and you'll see a large brownfield (ahem, I mean brown_field). That's the site. The depressing industrial areas are far away -- at least a bazillion millimeters. All told, it's like the second coming of the Beaux Arts.
TheFed- It definitely lacks any neighborhood feel.
Here are some other pictures to balance it out a bit. These are in the waterfront area and there are a few shots of the view. You should go and see for yourself - visualizing something on a blog (good or bad) is never possible. TheFed, people who like the area are not going to change their minds becasue you keep ranting about it. And people that don't wont becasue others keep trying to defend it. And for those who haven't seen it, go and see for yourself and that's how you should be making your decision.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2527601151/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2448290033/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2395275919/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2454837714/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2448289707/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2449111964/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2404980044/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2449111160/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2448285267/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2449109460/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/liqcity/2509487662/
To seal the deal, lobo, I'd throw in a couple of Macy's fireworks pics. Imagine looking at the fireworks from the comfort of your balcony!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhoran/2653914985/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhoran/2653914865/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhoran/2654740678/
If people really want good information on LIC then they should visit this site:
http://www.liqcity.com/
Pretty fair and balanced updates/information.
that's where I got all of the photos from.
"TheFed, people who like the area are not going to change their minds becasue you keep ranting about it. And people that don't wont becasue others keep trying to defend it. And for those who haven't seen it, go and see for yourself and that's how you should be making your decision."
My comments are primarily to rib LICBroker and anyone who is perma-bull. More bias than Fox News!
The depressing photos on that link are not in the area on the waterfront.
They are of the area bordered by the Newtown Creek to the south, the LIE to the north, and Greenpoint Avenue to the east. They have no condominiums being built. They're a great area to walk in to see the vanishing urban wasteland. Another great place to walk to get that type of photos used to be the street on the east side of the old Domino's Sugar Factory. I'm sorry I didn't take more photos of that urban wasteland while it still existed.
-- a former 15-year resident of the only residential area anywhere near those photographs (Sunnyside, other side of LIE)