Julia = Dryships = ditzy broker

Revelator, I outed Julia, but this post on dryships proves it. Good find! She's a fraud - forlornly lamenting ever-rising prices in Manhattan, while never actually giving real data.

Wait--am I missing something? I don't see Julia or Dryships in the second link...

"I don't see Julia or Dryships in the second link"

Read my post where she's outed.

Who gives a shit? I bet you a bottle of scotch that EddieWilson has 5 or more aliases. He has entire threads where he talks to himself.

""Read my post where she's outed.""

Oh.

"Who gives a shit?"

JuiceMan, did you get out on the wrong side of bed?

EW may have a million aliases, who cares? - agreed. But he isn't an incognito realtor bemoaning that property prices aren't falling. That's the difference.

You should really be a bit more careful, never mind decent. Both conclusions are wrong.

streeteasy - can you check whether the IP address is the same for Julia posts and dryships?

"JuiceMan, did you get out on the wrong side of bed?"

LMAO. No steve, I guess I'm not communicating as clearly as I should be

"But he isn't an incognito realtor bemoaning that property prices aren't falling. That's the difference."

What's the difference if a disgruntled renter continually posts doom and gloom at all hours of the day from different aliases? I don't see a difference between that or what you claim (if even true) about julia.

"EW may have a million aliases, who cares? - agreed. But he isn't an incognito realtor bemoaning that property prices aren't falling. That's the difference."

WTFC?

93rd: of course we can check, and in this case there is far more definitive criteria.

I think we made it clear: BOTH CONNECTIONS ARE WRONG. It's that simple.

Now draw your own conclusions about those who claim to know, claim to "out" people, etc.

Nice work!!

I think steve and John_the_Revelator should admit they were wrong and apologize to julia. It is the only decent thing to do.

JuiceMan...thank you...I just don't understand why people care about who others are. I'm really trying to get a better understanding of the real estate market. Not to trick or fool people.

"What's the difference if a disgruntled renter continually posts doom and gloom at all hours of the day from different aliases? I don't see a difference between that or what you claim (if even true) about julia."

JuiceMan, the difference is that EddieWilson/nyc10022 agrees with everything Steve says, whereas julia's anecdotal posts (which, while valid, cannot be taken as serious market indicators - no offense julia, this is true for ANYONE) seem to annoy him.

Sorry Julia!

Still don't believe your posts, however.

I disagree bjw2103, and happen to think anecdotal posts from people actually in the market are much more valuable than "research" and "analysis" based on Wikipedia, 1989 newspaper articles, and market conditions in Miami. If the only research allowed on this site was based on experiences of people actually in the market for real estate, we would all have a very good idea of where the market was going. Instead, we get links to nybits.com and posts on crappy developments in crappy areas as a barometer for the market. The more anecdotal posts the better in my view.

"Still don't believe your posts, however"

Why steve? julia has stated many times that she is looking for a 1 bed in a specific area and hopes to see a correction of 10-20% so she can afford to buy. Why is it so hard to believe that there hasn't been a 10-20% correction on 1 beds in most areas of Manhattan? Currently, that is the truth. What's not to believe?

this is one of the nastiest threads I've ever seen

JuiceMan, I actually agree with you. I was trying to state that one person's anecdotes, taken alone, are not really strong enough to judge the market as a whole. Now if you get a lot more people involved, with stories from the field, definitely worth paying attention to - probably more so than all this nybits.com (where, by the way, the average 2BR in Chelsea rents for $6,075) stuff that gets thrown around pretty casually.

Julia, these guys are just blowhard types you find on any board...they are the guys that love misery and like to point out the obvious at times while crying the sky is falling at others...you can also find them on websites looking for love in all the wrong places...so guys you still think it is going do 70% from where prices were two days ago?

I would add my 2 cents and say that cheetah over hammers them - many of these guys were predicting an NY RE bust and getting just trashed for it here. They are fighters and some of them a bit over defensive for that beating. More and more, it looks like they might be right, that NYC will not escape the bubble deflation. Some of them like rubbing that in.

The real issue is, given the likely deflation, when and how much? The train is big and bad, and no one here can pump up the prices or down, so it's silly to even talk of that. This is continental sized economic stuff happening, and like in any natural disaster, we have to wait helplessly (for the most part) to see what the damage will be. Some will stay put like the folks in Texas when the hurricane approached. Some will run for the hills everytime a hurricane gets near (most of which don't make landfall).

New York will take a hit, I think. How badly, noone knows, and if they say they do, they are overconfident in their ability to predict a chaotic system.

saying good-bye....i won't be posting

Julia's story did change to the point where it sort of contradicted herself. I don't know if she is the other one, but I don't really trust anything she says at this point.

Disproven!