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Best Priced Units Right now

Started by NYCREBUBBLE
almost 17 years ago
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What are some of you guys seeing in terms of best value and location, condos and coops?
Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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Brevoort East, 20 East 9th Street, Apt. 11D, about 1000 sq/ft jr. four with sunroom, protected views. Similar units were selling at peak well over $1MM here and at 2 Fifth. This one is $875K being offered by a motivated estate. Needs fair amount of work but is more livable than most estate sales I've seen.

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Response by NYCREBUBBLE
almost 17 years ago
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Really old building no? I've passed by this building many times and its exterior is not exactly attractive. Lobby also doesn't looks old.

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Response by prothchild
almost 17 years ago
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This would be a useful thread to expand and keep going.

If nothing else because it would give everyone a chance to zero in on examples of aggressive pricing that is in line with or ahead of the market curve.

A lot of time is spent focusing on all the overpriced properties (for good reason) but not enough on examining well priced properties.

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Response by anon10
almost 17 years ago
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will never work. The reason why people won't mention well priced properties is because they are saving it for themselves to either bid on it now or later.

but if it is overpriced, it doesn't matter.

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Response by prothchild
almost 17 years ago
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Fair point, I suppose. Though that presumes that people are interested in every well priced property they come across.

Which is obviously not true.

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Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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Yes, look at the price chopper and the comps threads. Real estate is sport for some. The only problem is this type of thread gets quite long, it's very easy to lose track of what's already been posted, so it takes a bit of work.

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Response by prothchild
almost 17 years ago
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I find the Price Chopper thread interesting, but most if not all those properties are high end, if I recall. All in several millions of dollars.

I'd be more interested in discussing well priced properties under $2mm.

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Response by liquidpaper
almost 17 years ago
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Oh, I'll mention one - in fact I'll even show it to you -

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/347779-coop-315-west-106th-street-manhattan-valley-new-york

That's it - that's the best priced apartment for what it offers in NYC right now. I said it, I believe it, I dare anyone to prove me wrong.

Go on, take yer best shot

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Response by patient09
almost 17 years ago
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lp: Only question I would have, Halstead generally has the best photos on the web, they do that right! Why only one 3 snaps and no kitchen? 2,000 f2 exactly $1,000 per f2 offered.

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Response by nshipley
almost 17 years ago
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The kitchen is gorgeous. The office has stellar river views. The apartment will sell at this price...

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Response by patient09
almost 17 years ago
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Nice call Nan, from your fingertips to a buyers wallet. Nan calls the bottom!

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Response by nshipley
almost 17 years ago
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I think it's well priced for what the apt has to offer. It's got river views, a nice location and a lovely intimate building. It doesn't need any work, and it's family sized...I'm not saying we're at the bottom...

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Response by liquidpaper
almost 17 years ago
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I can't comment on why only 3 snaps, but I saw this apartment when it was $3,175,000 - at the first open house. I thought it was a beautiful apartment that just wasn't priced in keeping with the market around us. The common spaces are smaller than what we're looking for, but the building seems solid and the apartment is - really - very nice. The kitchen in particularwas done thoughtfully and all appliances well located, good brands etc.

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Response by liquidpaper
almost 17 years ago
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And what I wonder about this listing is what it does to listings like these -

http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&listingid=1487070

So the price as well as the maintenance is 50% higher for a not as nice building on a street that leads to the west side highway withOUT river views . . . and on and on . . .

Am I missing something here or is every UWS 6 & 7 going to be marked against 106th street - at least for reference - even for people who won't live that high up?

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Response by patient09
almost 17 years ago
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Don't follow the hood at all, but is 1k per f2 for this "type" of apt a new low for the move?

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Response by Squid
almost 17 years ago
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>>Oh, I'll mention one - in fact I'll even show it to you -<<

Yep, 30% down from original ask. Not crazy about the building though, and location's not great but still... pretty incredible reduction and definitely interesting indicator of where the market may be headed.

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Response by liquidpaper
almost 17 years ago
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I think it's 37% down . . . can someone check my math here? Squid if I wrong I apologize in advance. patient09 - it is VERY low for this condition & other attributes of this apartment (river views, great kitchen, I think I remember good baths). There might be other stuff for 1K a foot - specifically think of my old chestnut 161 west 86th (3100 square feet asking $3mn) - but that needed another million to take it to the condition of this apartment.

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Response by patient09
almost 17 years ago
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lp, nship: nice, so it should be a good bellweather for this neck of the woods. interested to watch how it travels.

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Response by jasonkyle
almost 17 years ago
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that layout is amazing. wow.

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Response by West81st
almost 17 years ago
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It looks like a 2003-2004 price, maybe even earlier. Nan's prediction that it trades at or above the new ask seems pretty reasonable, with one important qualification. The main reason this neighborhood got so hot was a shortage of inventory thirty blocks south. If classic eights on 75th and West End get to $2.5MM, there won't be a market for this apartment at $2MM, no matter how nice it is. So I think Halstead is doing the right thing here: cutting deeply and going for a quick sale by recreating the huge spread that existed five years ago between the 80s and the 100s. But if the strategy doesn't work quickly, it probably won't work at all. The spread will narrow again, and this listing will lose its edge.

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 17 years ago
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i don't think its about the reduction. not in the market for something like this, but i can see potential buyers actually being scared by that large a drop. agree with w81---location, etc.

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Response by PPark
almost 17 years ago
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columbiacounty: Have you experienced that happening? Maybe a few years ago, but I'd be somewhat surprised if buyers were scared by large price drops in this market. I'd expect most buyers are in fact holding out for these drops, and I'd assume most view them as simply either the seller being aggressive (i.e., trying to get ahead of the market), of initial mispricing, or of stale pricing. This apartment looks like good value right now...it will be interesting to see what we're saying in the next 3 months.

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Response by newbuyer99
almost 17 years ago
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315 West 106th looks like a nice apartment with a good layout, and the views are great. That said, here's something I came upon that I'd take instead if given the choice:

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/167360-coop-300-east-54th-street-sutton-place-new-york

Pretty sure it's meaningfully bigger, in a location I'd consider much better, with two balconies. Might need a bit of work but not much, I don't think. And the layout is a bit funky, but creates lots of options for a family. Seems like a much better deal to me. What am I missing?

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Response by happyrenter
almost 17 years ago
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you consider 54th street and 1st avenue "much better" than 106 and bway? taste is taste and you are welcome to yours, but that is certainly not a generally-accepted position. you've picked a cobbled-together postwar in a non-residential, very non-family area of midtown near the entrance to a bridge--if that's your thing then you should go for it. but i don't consider it a better deal at all.

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Response by happyrenter
almost 17 years ago
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in a different price bracket:

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/333265-coop-108-west-87th-street-upper-west-side-new-york

cute brownstone 1 bedroom on 87th off columbus asking 399k.

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